Clearly, I have waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much time on my hands to respond to your posts; I’m studying for a bunch of certifications at the moment and, well, procrastination is procrastination. Also, the crowd around here seems all right and the stuff you post is sufficiently provocative for me to have something with which to wax poetic.
So, yah, nothing personal but: Procrastination + Interesting Content + Massive Ego (everyone really, really cares what I think) = Commenting on Alexi Wassers Website/Blog.
In regards to the recent death of Steve Jobs. I am not a fan of politics of any sorts, so if I am asked to the judge the life of a person I look at the following: 1) How did they treat their family and raise their children 2) What did they bring about in the world while they were alive 3) How did they start out in life 4) What obstacles had they to overcome 5) In the end was the world better off or worse off with this person.
Given the previous considerations, Steve Jobs was an exemplary man whose life is both an inspiration as well as a lesson, model on how to live life.
I personally find it limiting to view people under certain political, ideological categories. So, Steve Jobs as Outsourcing Corporate Billionaire only serves to tell me more about your beliefs than it tells me about Steve Jobs.
While the above ideological category may be true–I am not arguing for or against it, again I am not political–there certainly are hell of a lot worse people in the world who come from affluence, faced few obstacles, contributed nothing to the world, and who treat their family like commodities, and in the end the world is neither better nor worse for their existence.
Think Kim Kardashian.
Watching the above video really put Steve Jobs in focus.
I know very little about computers; I might buy a Mac once I want to produce my music, but right now PC’s are way cheaper so that is what I own. Furthermore, I will never learn anything about computers; there is just something monumentally boring about computers, I feel the same about cars. Sports, Cars, Computers all boring shit to me; yes, I am a pussy.
Typically I listen to what a person is saying and not how they say it. However in Job’ speech, I just could not be drawn away from the sincerity of his tone. When he talked about his biological mother, I could hear a little bit of haunting resentment. When he talked about cancer, I could hear a hint of sadness, gratefulness and even a little bit of guilt being given a little bit more time than most. When he talked about his wife, I could here his confidence and his happiness regarding making the right decision to choose her over a meeting.
Finally, when he talked about facing mortality. How an acceptance of death is required for bravery, innovation, a sense of urgency to bring about good in the world, I heard a contemplative man who has looked into the eyes of Father Time and did not flinch.
I believe Jobs was Buddhist. However, I always imagine the after life as being a bunch of clubs. You have the athletes professional and amateur in one club, playing the sports they love through eternity.
If my idea of death is correct, I hope to be in the same club as Steve Jobs–I believe that club would also include Plato, Homer, Ovid, Hegel–and just discuss existence and ethics for eternity with him.
“So, Steve Jobs as Outsourcing Corporate Billionaire only serves to tell me more about your beliefs than it tells me about Steve Jobs.” Um, yeah: Until “YOU” “PERSONALLY” can’t afford a tomato -much less an iPhone- and are living in the modern equivalent of a 19th century work farm. That’s not ideological, that is common sense. It’s also called solidarity for other human beings on the planet, which you’re being trained through this site and a lot of other US media outlets not to have. In fact this site is training you not to care about YOURSELF, which is evident when imply that your voice doesn’t matter, but somehow voices being advertised and expressed here do. Jobs, like Gates, and Zuckerberg were all college drop outs, so, apart from the corporate take over of higher education, I have NO idea why they should be invited to a commencement ceremony. The put together this circuits to come up with this computer bullshit that will someday OWN you as it already tames you. They put out fake narratives (SOCIAL NETWORK) or withhold the true narratives (as in Jobs) about these people, so you’ll never know if it’s just a government front to surveillance and coerce and control people or what the fuck it’s really all about. And at the risk of getting “political,” we need not mention the fact that this guy singlehandedly killed the ‘”real” art and music scene with all his DYI crap and iTunes givaway fest with respect to intellectual property he neither generated nor owned. Once he DYI’d it, he took the professional tool away form the “professionals” and gave them back some iMovie garbage as it were some kind of insidious joke on all the professionals who bought into his scheme. But of course JOBS came out smelling like a rose in all that, didn’t he… To talk about jobs in the same breath as Hegel or Ovid or Edison or Einstein is AB-SURD and shows nothing but backward progress in United States culture.
Ahhhh, Blaaaaaaaaaaaaah, politics strikes again.
@Keith, since you mention Hegel I assume you have studied Hegel? If not then start with his History of the World. It is the easiest of his writings. The text is not meant at all to be a narrative of humanity, but rather a philosophical explanation of the aims and goals of progress.
At one point Hegel discusses Napoleon. He then discusses how historians–who he terms moralizers– are critical and derisive toward Napoleon. But then Hegel asks the most important question when it comes to understanding historical figures: (simply paraphrasing from memory)
“It is easy to look back and deride Napoleon for what he accomplished in life and his end in exile. In fact, anyone can do that. A child can do that. The question you must ask yourself though is: Could you achieve what Napoleon achieved in his lifetime? If the answer is, “no,” your moralizing is hypocrisy.”
So, can you do what Steve Jobs did?
I think the answer is no.
Furthermore, what have you actually done for humanity? Posting comments a blog really doesn’t do much for humanity.
You can write on blogs all about world peace and whatever you believe is some kind of mythical solidarity we should have with strangers. However when presented with a real person like me, you have not treated me with solidarity in your response. Why should I treat you with solidarity?
I know I have done plenty in the world and will do plenty more. How about you? If I state–halfheartedly– my voice on a blog means nothing, it is because I know my actions in real life mean something.
I know your type. I have fought and struggled against types like you all my life. You are the guy who sees me working hard for my family, my success and do nothing to help me along the way. In fact, you put obstacles in my way to make it harder to reach my goals.
Then when I reach success, what is your response? “You owe me; you must serve me; you are entitled to give me something.”
My response to types like you? “What have you done for me lately? Or actually ever?”
“..Almost everything–all external expectations, all pride, all fear of embarrassment or failure–these things just fall away in the face of death, leaving only what is truly important. Remembering that you are going to die is the best way I know to avoid the trap of thinking you have something to lose. You are already naked. There is no reason not to follow your heart…”
Truly wise words.
Dude, his factories in China had NETS around the ledges to catch his “workers” if they tried to jump off the ledges of the buildings in which they worked. I’m seeking out solidarity with people who do that or are of the mind set that is going to eventually bring working conditions like that back here. It doesn’t matter how slick his computers are. And I’m not trying to get in your way, bro, great, quite the contrary, keep pouring over your Hegel (although I encourage you to rethink you understanding of his ideas); but, seriously, you need to wake up out of your trance, maaan! Honestly, who KNOWS what I could do if DARPA financed my outfit! Or I guess you could be so apolitical as to not care about your own future enslavement? I’m trying to HELP YOU man, this isn’t about me. I have everything I need…
Bro, you should check out Hegel’s master-slave dialectic. Something Steve might’ve benefited the exposure from had he stayed in and accessed the ENTIRE curriculum at Reed College, as opposed to just “dropping in” (a sort of a form of theft, I suppose) on only classes that interested him personally -selfishly, that is- since, of course, he couldn’t find any value on it… http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master-slave_dialectic
I understand your perspective and I did read up on some of Job’s less than stellar–well that is an understatement, horrid–working arrangements.
However, what is not clear is how much power Jobs could have had in the situation. China is a far different country than the United States. While China is prospering, part of that prosperity is attributed to changing from a primarily agrarian culture to an industrial culture.
This evolution is not new. England began the movement,which then spread to the United States. Until World War II the United States was practically a third world country. After, we became a super power. How? Because the war and the mobilization of factories allowed the United States to move away from them, “Dust Bowl,” to an Industrial power. Much like China, we did not have many worker rights. While not to the extent of the atrocity as China, the situation was comparable.
Now China is going through the process. What occurs in the evolution from Agrarian to Industrial is the creation of a Middle Class. The Middle Class, coming from poverty, advocates for the poor and in the process creates a Service Economy.
It appears China’s trajectory is similar. So, what I am trying to say in short: Jobs brought jobs to China, the Chinese government failed to provide reasonable worker rights. Oddly, these jobs are necessary to create a working Middle Class which then implements working rights for the poor and then evolves to a Service Economy.
Finally, don’t call me, “Bro.” Second, don’t pull this bullshit, “I know more about Hegel,” crap by suggesting my interpretation is incorrect but not providing any support. I have not fucking clue what DARPA is and I really don’t care.
Don’t do former Slaves of America a disservice and indicate falsely that whatever future holds for the United States will be as wicked and cruel as the former institution of Slavery. (In my opinion, that just makes you an both ignorant and worse and a-hole)
You don’t have everything you need, otherwise you would not write, “I have everything I need.” I thought you were a student of Hegel? Don’t you remember? “Every statement implies its contradiction?” Yah, I guess you slept through that part of the video biography of Hegel.
A link to Wikipedia? You have no clue what Hegelian Dialectic is, nor what the concept of Master-Slave necessitates.
Look, you’re a kid, I’m a man. What is the difference?
I have experience in all social classes and levels of power. I have experience studying Economics to the level of many well known Academics–look up Krugman, you will like him. I have actually gone out and worked with people to improve their life. I have actually changed the course of the lives of many people to the positive.
In short, while you bitch and whine about ideology you clearly do not understand, I have been out there improving and making changes.
I know your future, because I have seen it before. You are all ideology until you go out there and you can’t hack it. Then what do you do? You become complacent just like everyone else once you realize what is really at stake. That is what pisses me off most. You are lecturing me who has done a lot and aspires to do more and I KNOW, I KNOW that in ten years–assuming the economy improves–you are just going to be another guy sitting in a cubicle forgetting all about that ideological nonsense that made you feel special as a kid.
Buddy, I know you. You are going to be exactly like your father; there is no escaping it.
I am lucky to be like my grandfathers and my father. My grandfathers were both humanitarian business men. On one side my grandfather bought land, and sold it to the poor at a price they could pay–he believed in charity but believed that in charity one must respect a man’s pride. On the other side my grandfather created businesses not for profit but to employ people. My father is an artist and a real advocate. He never ranted about shit going on where he could have little influence. Instead, he made changes at home where he could make changes and benefited many. In short, my family has taught me to, “tend to my garden.”
Look up that quote to find out where it comes form and what it means. I’ll give you hint it is part of French Enlightenment.
Geeze, why do I have to deal with people like this? I wish I did not have to deal with people like this. Dudes like this always cause me trouble in real life and get in my way. Well, it’s fine learning to not suffer fools is probably something I should learn.
oh snap, keith just got served
“Buddy, I know you. You are going to be exactly like your father; there is no escaping it.” Yeah, right, served a little too much Christian Brother’s brandy on a Saturday night before he sat down to write this garbled prose. I don’t need to look up anything. This guy’s got his facts confused and he isn’t telling me shit I don’t already know. Steve Jobs is the one who just got served…
@That Guy: uh… no. The people I know who “accomplish” things and are proud of that fact tend to mention (in tedious detail) the things they’ve… accomplished. Maybe you’re a sporadically-motivated autodidact who runs a small business and occasionally organizes Little League games, or something, but posting a 15-paragraph screed on a site offering dating advice doesn’t quite peg you as Henry Kissinger or Zbigniew Brzezinski. Not to any fellow grownup. Not even us happy-with-ourselves, total-nobody grownups!
While I disagree with Keith’s hyperbolic (and scatter-shot) attack on the (talented) Blog Owner here, I agree with Keith’s apparent nausea over nearly-everyone on Facebook turning the late Mr. Jobs into a fucking Saint. Drinking the Kool-Aid is bad enough but in this case it’s especially absurd because the Kool-Aid you’re chugging is piss-flavored and still warm.
Saint Job(s) addicted a generation to expensive, tatty crap that no one really needs or can afford and the Third World (re: sweat shops and conflict minerals, et al), along with the First World addicts, suffers for. The really clever thing being that part of the Lifestyle that Saint Job(s) sold you precludes anything as unhip as reading, in any depth, about why Saint Job(s) was a Yankee Robber Baron of the Thomas Edison variety. Wanna know who else “changed the world”? John Francis Queeny. Yay.
If you must venerate techie-industrial types, why not read up on the Nikola Teslas (aka unsung and ripped-off geniuses) of this world? The “successes”, like Jobs, are almost invariably sociopaths (possessing the required genetic skill-set).
Now let’s get back to chatting about blow jobs…!
To both dudes:
At this point I don’t care.
I admire Steve Jobs and wish he was alive because he was working on an alternative to this bull shit world wide web we have now. Unfortunately because the www was so hazardously malformed, it allows weak people like yourselves to have the power to invade privacy and cause a nuisance.
I’m not interested in computers, so I cannot complete his work. I wish I was interested in computers to complete his work, but I’m just not.
In regards to both of you, your both guilty of hypercorrection which means to me someone put you down early in life which is how you came about.
There is nothing I can say to change the trajectory of your life; I know the end is not a good one. I would like you two to have a happier more successful life, but both of you have a chip on your shoulder. You cannot go far in life if you walk around with a chip on your shoulder.
The only idea I’ll leave you with is the following: that nebulous figure of power you believe you need to fight against and rail against; you don’t know him, you will never know him…that is what hurts you most…the fact he would never have been your friend when you were a kid and he still would not be your friend when you are an adult.
So, I’m just writing be honest with yourself. You aren’t fighting for world peace or because you care about the plight of others. I know I am, because I do it every day– in spite of the nuisance you types create in my life.
Be honest with yourself, you are fighting because you are hurt that Jobs and guys like me want nothing to do with you. This is not about he poor or the unjust. It is about you.
Honestly, there is nothing you can do which would make either Jobs or a guy like me want to have anything to do with you ever. So, if I were you I would focus on your own life and how to make it better. Instead of focusing on those of us who are happy and how to cause a nuisance. You can’t win. Why? Because we are happy. You can do whatever you want, but you will never take away our happiness.
So, just some humble word of advice: focus on your own happiness, that you can improve. Trying to make those who are happy be as miserable as you are, that you can never win.
TG: I’m deeply moved. As we all know, “time is money”, and, yet, you took time out from your incredibly tight (and very real, I’m sure) schedule…
Thanks, man. Lunch with Buffet? This was better.
iWont upgrade. (Jobs and his “planed obsolescence” killed the beautiful art of the record album…)
Steve, if can call you by your first name, thank you for receiving my words in the spirit of their intent. Now, go off and live life. Please, enjoy every day and all it brings forth.
But again, Steve, get the message right: It’s not about me, It’s about you. Your most recent response was still focused on me. Do you notice that? Let me count the words out of 34 words in your reply 29 were about me.
Steve, who cares about me? I mean you do and I’m not certain why. If you reply, I want to hear about you. I don’t mean anything personal; I mean you know how much fun you had and how many hopes and aspirations you have for the future. Because you still have your focus on me.
Focus on You Man, YOU! That is my message.
Me, why care? Assume you are right, everyone assume Steve is right. I’m a total and complete loser. Yes, I am. So, there is no need to be concerned with me at all. I’m a loser.
Why focus on a loser? Why? Go forth and enjoy life and have fun and create hopes and dreams for yourself.